Just picked up my first truck 1989 power ram 50

[b-dub]

so I should be picking the truck up this coming week.. trying to decide what to have done with the exhaust.. does anyone recommend a muffler that doesn't make the truck sound like a 90's civic with a folgers can and shopping cart handle..



everything from the header back will be custom.

[camoit]

flow masters

[Fordubishi]

Dyno-max, the only other thing I would do is put a resonator on it as well that will stop the popping on deceleration.

[DroppedMitsu]

Flowmaster muffler, I'm running a delta flow 40 series, nice deep tone and not too loud

[camoit]

If it pops on decell then just richen it up a little.

[b-dub]

any advice on cat.. or catless (no smog or emissions crap around here)

[camoit]

no cat.

[b-dub]

so straight pipe from header back to a flowmaster. (always heard good things about them anyways)

what size pipe do you guys recommend for the 2.6l and I'm debating the resonator .. I guess if it's too loud it could easily be added on as an afterthought.


and is the pacesetter header even worth getting.. honest opinion on this please..

[Fordubishi]

Max exhaust pipe size I would go with is a 2" OD. As the exhaust gets larger you start to lose bottom end torque and you will find your truck slower off the line till you hit a higher rpm.A resonator doesn't quiet down the exhaust, it just sound smoother and stops the pops and farts that you hear on the "ricer" cars that sound like pissed off bumblebees.

I did a full 2" system on my 90 Suzuki Sidekick (1.6L SOHC) with resonator and dyno-max Super turbo. when done the engine at idle sounded like a small V6 and at wide open throttle is never buzzed or farted.

[pennyman1]

I run a pacesetter header, old style, with a high flow cat, 2.25" pipe back to a delta 44 with 2 2" pipes out. In the burgh we have to have cats and it helped me by not losing the bottom end with the larger pipes. The recommendations back in the day was to use a 2.25" pipe without cats all the way through - when they used to make exhaust pipe kits thats what they came with.

[b-dub]

engine in.. then engine had to be pulled up to do the oil pan (2wd engine in a 4x4 truck) so now the engine is back in and was told it should fire up tomorrow... fingers crossed.


so I had a fun day... had a flat tire.. so I had to get a ride home.. was on my way to change the flat when a nice gringind brought me to a halt.. towed it home... fixed the flat finally and on the way home oil light came on.. I pulled over immedialty and topped it off (got to get a new oil filter cannister) ..so I got home to fire up a 3rd car and it's revving up and down really hard like it's cammed lol

[b-dub]

she puurrrssssssss....


uhm... did 88 or 89 2.6 trucks have an EGR? both exhaust mani's have what appears to be an egr port.. yet nowhere on the truck to mount it and neither engine came with one... pace setter header doesn't have this does it??

[DroppedMitsu]

Yes the egr valve is located on the intake manifold, cant remember exactly where on the 2.6

[b-dub]

Well I guess mine just won't have one. Both engines were missing it and the exhaust manifolds were just hacked off and leaking massively from the quarter sized pipe sticking out of it...I guess I better get to looking and making sure there isn't something else to be plugged

[b-dub]

This is the only pic I have but it's a small pipe sticking off the Mani

[b-dub]

This is the only pic I have but it's a small pipe sticking off the Mani

[mllrtm79]

this is what my 88 with 2.6l looks like...

[b-dub]

oh alright so the tube runs into the air cleaner cover/intake then it's no biggie for me... pace setter being ordered today and the hole in the intake shouldn't effect anything since it's located where it is. plus I have plans to go weber in the future..

odd that my exhaust doesn't have that upper tube coming out on the right side

[mllrtm79]

I think the tube is just off of the shroud, it just funnels warm air into the air cleaner off of the manifold.

[b-dub]

That makes sense

so Hank "Blue Beast" is running perfect.. just got to get the exhaust and windshield done and she should be road ready... then next comes the fun stuff...

montero arms shackles and torsion crank after that body lift and I'll get some decent 33" on order by fall .. still not sure what I will do for the light bar and winch



oh forgot to mention.. when he went to swap oil pans.. chunks of metal came out Lol... I was wanting to keep the engine and rebuild it.. but honestly I think it's done for..... I'd hate to scrap it.. any ideas?? Timing cover was smashed and all the bearings were toast.. I have a feeling the block is probably pretty beat to heck as well...

[b-dub]

so I'm getting the header ordered tomorrow and was planning to order the muffler.. but just can't decide if I want to bother spending the money on a flowmaster.. mainly after hearing this.. catless with 40 series .. not too crazy about the sound which 40 was it that you guys mentioned? this one?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRuFPPA-b14

[Fordubishi]

you can always go with a Dyno-Max Super turbo, I've used them for years and they sound good.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WLK-17730/?rtype=10

[DroppedMitsu]

Mine sounds a bit different I think but I'm running a cat and the delta flow 40 series

[b-dub]

from watching a different vid of that guy's he has straight pipe to the delta 40 and has just the shell of the cat slid over the pipe.. probably why it's buzzing too much is from the cat shell vibrating.


ok my thoughts... feel free to criticize the heck out of me

the truck will be lifted bigger tires etc. will be used as a mud toy/DD for when I don't want to take my jetta out ... nothing major I live in a REALLY rural area on dirt and gravel roads that are often torn up and muddy so it's not like I'll be attempting to mud bog LOL...

anyways..

pacesetter header to 2.5" pipe (will this lose too much Tq I hear bigger pipe diameter has deeper tone but I don't want to lose power from it..)
then a cherry bomb glasspack in place of the car (using it as a resonator) ... then 2.5" pipe to a cherry bomb turbo muffler with an imediate turn down around the stock location..

is 2.5" fine for a nice deeper tone or should I stick with a 2.25

is a glass pack and muffler overkill ? I thought it might make it sound deeper and quieten it up some since I'm catless.. will I kill power using both?



edit- would a 3" turndown after the muffler sound better? or like if a did 2.25" piping at least do a 2.5" turn down

[Fordubishi]

DON'T do a dump under the bed it will resonate like crazy and drone real bad at highway speeds. Best thing to do is either a straight pipe from the muffler back and dump it at the roll pan or a bend right after the muffler that dumps in front or behind the rear tire out from under the box.