Thanks for the replies. I will check out the Centerforce II. I have been looking at clutch videos this afternoon and I see that there are stage 1, stage 2 stage 3 etc. with each having a higher torque rating. One seller even had one before the stage 1. That's probably the one I put in. I am looking at the ceramic six pad disc with spring hub and rated stage 3. I am still learning and appreciate any comments. I do not drive hard but I do pull trailers that can get fairly heavy. Firewood cutting on mountain roads can end up with a pretty heavy load. Most of the time most of the uphill is empty but sometimes we go down the other side a ways and come uphill loaded. Last time I had to to put it in low transfer to get started uphill because the clutch was slipping.