The 2 gears making up the left half of the H are very close to other 2 and after removing the pan and seeing that I was actually feeling 4 separate gears I decided to remove the pan off my wide pattern 5 speed. Both when placed into what I know to be reverse and what I can only assume to be reverse make the internals move in the same strange way. Instead of moving a shift fork, a rod protrudes from a hole that looks like the spot another shaft could or would go. In the case of the 5 speed that piece also moves in response to 5th as well.

Perhaps some put it back together opposite lol.

When I had it running briefly the other day I really should have put it in gear and let it nudge a bit to see just exactly what it would do. Once I have it running ill find out and update.

Thanks for the responses, I really appreciate it.