Yea Ram50Man I will summerize about after I get off work and its the concrete sidewalk it sits higher than my grass but when it is sitting on level asphalt its dead level lol. I am very happy it does help people out thats is what we surpose to do I enjoy helping people lol. Yea I may take the back bumper off but I am still deciding it dont scrap yet hahaha but if it does and I just might. thanks for all the compliments makes me feel good about my work on my truck. I love this site it has help very much and everybody keep up the great work too and i will get back to it asap.:D