DroppedMitsu thanks for your advice do you think that the tranny will be off once I lower the motor ? I just want enough to clear the hood but not to much that I'll have my oil pan scrapping I'll measure n I think I have some extra mounts I'll use to cut n make longer so the bolt sits higher n yes that truck is low it almost lays doors hopefully I can fit 20" since those stock are taller the my 20". Thanks again