thanks camoit, i was wondering why there was only one "taillight" wire and no brake wire, that explains that. i actually lucked out and got somebody stupid enough to loan me a diesel f250 so i don't have to risk hurting the mighty max and myself pulling a unbraked 3500lb load up and worse, down a bunch of hills. i guess i will pick up one of those boxes for when the truck is towings other toys.

this all makes me want to pick up a long bed mighty max, do a 2.8td from a l400, dually swap and trailer brakes... enough day dreaming, one project at a time. I should be posting a thread in other vehicles with the new project very soon.