Man I want some big brakes like those!
Man I want some big brakes like those!
Thanks guys.
What year cas do you have? I have 93 cas and my clip broke trying to figure out the wire order
I have a 92. Can't remember if the 93 is different or not.
Does it plug into the cas or does it have the wires coming out to plug in?
Plugs into the cas
Ok that is the one I have what is the order of the wires in the plug?
according to the manual starting from the end with two notches its white-black-red-black. Can't check my truck as the wiring is covered.
Thanks that will help one I put my backup head on the block
you sir are one of my max/ram50 heroes. I've read this thread over at least 5 times and it still isn't getting old. I love knowledging myself on any project or hobby I get myself into and now owning one of these trucks I'm fully committed to learning everything I can about everything even if its not on my to-do list. I've had some ideas of my own simply though observation, I don't jump into researching my ideas right off however, I try to trouble shoot and brainstorm my ideas and determine rather its a viable upgrade then I jump on research. i.e. I found cross drilled and slotted rear discs for a half-ton Chevy, same 6x5.5 so that's easy enough, caliper brackets eh no big, but I'm wondering of a good donor booster, why have big brakes all around without some good power to them, what booster do you run? anyone else have brake mods? cause these stockers suck testicles!
Booster is not what you'll have to worry about, just a bigger bore m/c to move more fluid to the brakes according to another builder on here. Our trucks have a 15/16 bore, you can run a montero sport with 1" bore or 3000gt vr4 with 1 1/16" bore. I'm not that far yet but will most likely run the 1 1/16 as I am going to be running rear disc too later on. Merrill on the forums has a build thread going right now with a brake upgrade going on, think he is going to use 3000gt calipers also
Hope the bagging is going great. Seems your truck is in the build process so much your not getting the required enjoyment you deserve.:)
I guess you have to install some skid plates or post too with the bagging? I think I read something about titanium post used to prevent the frame from being damaged by some unforseen obstacle.
Well keep us up on the progress, you should be excited towards the completion...I sure would!
Thanks Brad Its going pretty well. Front just needs to be smoothed out and primed/painted/powder coated. And I just ordered the majority of metal and 4-link parts I need so I should be starting on the rear very soon. Hope to have it driving by the end of this month/beginning of next month but we'll see about that.
You don't really need any skid plates or anything unless your tank is real low and you might want to cover it. I think you mean drag blocks though, and people use those is they want to drag their trucks and make sparks and not damage their frames or anything.
You're right though I haven't got to enjoy it the last year but it will be everything I've wanted for my truck once it is finished and I can enjoy it.
pulled my motor out so I could finish welding up my lower control arm brackets and get everything smoothed and painted. Should have the front end painted and mosly assembled next weekend.
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What radiator fan is that sourced from....make and model?
I saw where you got the radiator from did u get the fan from there to?
Nice build by the way!!:shock:
Its a spal, autolite or the like aftermarket fan.
Been a while since an update, finally got something worth showing. Passenger side is pretty much all done in terms of welding, smoothing, and painting. Also finished up getting the vr4 calipers and 12.5" rotors mounted. I powder coated the calipers a high temp metallic bronze, I think it looks pretty sweet.Still need to install the vr4 master cylinder and make the lines to the calipers.
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Fills the voids left by the 18s real well. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2...pspnw2vmjs.jpg
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Tucking just a little bit of rim :)
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Very nice! I like them wheels, they look get tucked. What size are they?
That looks really good!
Thank you guys. The rims are 18x8 +45 offset
Oh that is going to look so nice when it's done. Your handy work looks professional and clean. Them wheels are pretty sweet all by themselves. What kind driveway finish is that called...?
Le' Riverbed! You have been working on that truck in them rocks this entire time? oh man you must have sore feet, back, legs. Grab some old carpet from the back of a rug store and throw it over them rocks. That kind of surface would kick my ass if I had to do work on my truck like that.
Remember on your maiden voyage after the rebuild to drive somewhere where no one else is until; your comfy. I know at least 3 people that did an ultimate build and soon as they drove it on the street it was right in front of another vehicle or they forgot to stop at a sign. One of the guys had a classic vette completely redone from top to bottom. He started it and rolled out driveway in front of a truck and totalled it. His dad was watching and just shook his head when it happened, lol.
Your going to have a great time with your truck...keep us updated!
Thanks for the kind words brad. That's the side of my garage, all of the critical measuring work and welding was done inside of the garage on the pretty level ground. The finish welding, grinding, blasting and painting was done on the rocks, doesn't bother me too much and I do have padded mats and carpet to throw down when I need. I live out in the country so my truck always gets its test drives on empty roads.
Hi Josh...How are you going on the brake upgrade? I am in Oz and have been doing some research on this but striking blanks everywhare with rotors etc. I tried to resurrect the Big Rotor thread to see what people have come up with. I have been in contact with Rahtid and he has shown me some of the things that he has done...he is still trying to find some rotors...Fishpost19 is in Australia too but his is on the back burner at the moment due to other projects getting more of his attention and money...:) I am interested in 6 lug like your friend...I have a 2WD Macro cab (club Cab here) like yours and want to do a front disc upgrade...would love to know if it has progressed to being available soon...Quote:
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A place here in Oz (hopper.com.au) have a 300 mm kit for L200/L300. I rang them and asked if they will fit the 2nd gen trucks like ours...they said only if the stub axel was the same on both the first gen and the second gen....do you know if it is? Theirs is a 5 lug kit using Ford Falcon (aussie made) calipers and I think a 5 lug Commodore disc and a conversion hub that is custom...That is all I know until I can confirm whether the stub axles are the same or not...
cheers
John
spindles (stub axles) are the same from 76 to at least 93, the only difference is where the caliper location is on the spindle.
I have barely got my big brakes setup. I still need to do the driver's side. I do not plan to sell any kits or make a 6 lug any time soon. Merrill on this board might be of more help as he has a shop and more resources as well as also building a big brake kitQuote:
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Not trying to thread jack, but I have a design for bolt-on big brakes using OEM mitsu parts. It would just take a lot of buyers for me to produce the parts.
You can check out my build thread as well for the set-up I built for my truck if you are looking for ideas. I used VR-4 calipers and rotors in a slightly different setup (all custom built).
how many is a lot - I am interested in that kit.
I could pull it off with 7 confirmed buyers minimum.Quote:
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and that is for the brackets and we get the calipers, rotors and master cylinder?
No, it would just be for machined hubs that bolt Montero Sport brakes to the MM. Sourcing the rotors, calipers and master cylinder would be up to the buyer. I'm sure we can sell full package deals, but the whole point is to sell the hub that bolts everything up.
I'd suggest we create a new thread with questions and such... I feel like we have gone off topic in this build thread.
sticky time!
Hey what fuel pump did you use with the 91 tank? stock truck or dsm?
Sorry I haven't been online much, and havent worked on the truck much, too much O/T in my life. I have a 90 aftermarket truck pump in there as it flows about the same as a stock DSM pump. But I have an Evo IX pump waiting to go in when I get my truck back together. They are all the same basic shape.
Sweet so it should handle a higher output and maybe a 75 shot
So progress has been slow as Ias working 60+ hours a week and it has been hot as heck, but work is slowing to normal and its getting cooler so I have been working on it a lil lately . Been working on cleaning up where the wheel wells meet the firewall and shaving the holes in the firewall where the wiring harness used to go. Its all finished and seam sealed, just need to throw some primer on it for now.
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Cool man. Glad to see the progress starting again!
Did we ever get a forum thread or sticky started for the oversized brake conversation?
I believe someone started a thread for bolt on oem big brakes (besides merrill and my custom setups), but my setup is custom fitted and a bunch of work.Quote:
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Also will have updates soon, been workjng on the truck a bunch more lately.
First post here, been lurking and following this build and I'm amazed of what you have done so far. Any update sir?
Look everyone it's that lurker we were all talking about ;)
Welcome to the forum Ol'mighty, glad you can join us!
How's the build going DroppedMitsu, we have not heard from you for a while and hope your moving forward.
lol BradMph, thanks for the welcome.Quote:
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I made a little progess, firewall has been primed and ready for paint. I finally got a storage shed at my house for all the dirt bikes and other crap that were taking up all the room in the garage. My truck is about to go into the garage this weekend and I will begin working on it again. I hope to have it done in a month or so as I will be moving very soon.
Thanks for the interest, helps my motivation knowing there are people that want to see it done.
Keep it going .....I wanna see it!
I feel ya on the shed for getting junk out of the garage. Ive got two sheds now and still don't have enuff room in the garage. That's my own personal problem though since I get a shed and then just get more stuff to put in it.
Well the truck is in the garage and I have been working on it. Removed the bed and then removed the exhaust and driveshaft. Then i started with modifying the stock cross members to be flush with the bottom of the frame.
Got them both finished, just need to paint them:
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Next I'm going to make the crossmember behind the cab for the front mounting points of the 4-link. Hope to have it welded up and installed in a few days.
Very nice. Glad to see the progression. The extended cab and long beds have 2 piece driveshafts, right?
Thanks and yes they do, so no cutting up of the driveshaft tunnel for me. Happy about that lol
nice to see some progress here!
Got the cross member for the 4 link all welded and metal finished. Should have it welded on the truck after work today
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Yaa, where the heck you been Mista? I bet you got new girlfriend, huh! :lmao:
Hey man.....Im trying to follow along and do the same to my truck.
Did u just grind off the spot welds on the crossmember to separate the lower part. Any reinforcement?
Are you building your own bars or buying premade? Getting parts from thorbros.com?
Haha no, no new girlfriend, otherwise i wouldnt have money for the toys.
The tranny cross member i cut out the center hump section and cut a new piece out of 1/8 and welded it in. Ill be bolting it up like bobbyk? Did for the time being until i make a new crossmember.
Im making my bars using end links from custom connection and thorbros.
Also got the crossmember welded in tonight:
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Weld shot, getting more consistent
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Very nice welds, melted into the 2 pieces nicely, and very consistent. Is that stick (nickel) welding?
Looks like brushed up MIG. Very clean.
Thank you good sirs, and yes it's Mig wire brushed, my machine can be seen in a pic in my last post.
Alright so unfortunately I'm not the owner of a mighty max, however I do all the work on my friends and he wants me to do this swap for his 88, I understand all the work that you did for the most part, my question is since you used the truck water pump did you use the pulley made for the 4g63t water pump because his stock water pump uses a v belt and I thought the turbo motors used serpentines
Looks great Josh, 175 amp is plenty. I'm going to say you're running co2 shielding gas with that hard wire. My little Lincoln prefers 75/25 the 25% argon runs hotter and cleaner (too hot for sheet metal). Thor brothers, great choice they make some awesome quality parts. The 4 link parts I bought from them their welds are freaking beautiful.
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Are going to use a pan hard or watts linkage for tracking?
Yea I run C25(75/25) with mild steel. Im going to be running a triangulated 4-link so no need for panhard or watts.Quote:
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Yea I used the 4g63t water pump pulley and used a press to adjust it to line up with thw pulleys since the truck water pump is longer.Quote:
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I have been working on a 88 dodge ram 50 *mine* and i got the engine in everything looks good but my driveshaft is off by 4 inches 5/8 what can i do to make my driveshaft work extended or spacers?
Have your drive shaft lengthened how ever much needed(should not be 4") by a shop. They weld a new driveshaft tube in between the joints and balance it.
Some updated pics. Rear end is all done fab wise, just have to wire and plumb my air setup. Hope to have it back on the road in a month or less.
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Dang no love huh........
Here's some more pics... Wiring, airline, and pinion angle just thrown together to be able to move it around right now.
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Working on getting the firewall all smooth so I can throw paint and clear on it then start putting the truck back together again.
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great work - I need to start learning how to weld...
Thank you guys. Yea my uncle (ironworker) taught me the basics when i was 18 or so and I messed around with it a little and made a few things. But ive gotten a lot more into welding after buying my own welder 2 years ago and am getting decent with it. I love welding now lol
Keep it coming dude. :thumbup:
Been working on finishing up all the little things I need to do, wiring clean up and wrapping, brakes, brake lines.
Well I finally started on the brakes/lines. I'm getting rid of the stock proportioning valve and running an adjustable prop. valve so I have a few extra lines and a distribution block to get rid of. Bought a roll of copper/nickel brake tubing and got to it. This is where I'm at, line to thee rear from master cylinder is done, line to pass side is 1/3 done and I haven't started on the drivers yet but it will be short and easy. I will probably get them finished tomorrow.
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Also as you can see in the first pic I got my firewall/engine bay/core support all smoothed and painted. Its not perfect but I'm happy with it for the time being, it is MUCH nicer than it previously was.
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Looks awesome Josh, can't wait to see it on the road.
Looking good man! I know how great it feels when you first see it go up and down.
Oh yeah I was like a kid on Christmas when it first when up and down itself on air. Won't be too long and it'll be running again. Motor is about to go back in this weekend and then it will only be a few more weeks hopefully(that's what I keep saying).
Looking good josh! Glad to see you're still working in this thing
Thanks Ethan, it's slowly getting there, just wore out from the heat and long days at work. Should hopefully start putting the motor in this weekend, and have some more pics up soon.
Only one pic, but a big step happened this weekend. Got a bunch of stuff done on the engine and got it back into the truck!! Now I can finish the wiring 100% and finish the truck. Shouldn't be too much longer until I am driving it
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I've read through the posts in this thread and saw most of the pics and I've got to say is that I love this truck. It looks very well done and you can tell that you care for it with all of the hard and meticulous work you've put into it. Please keep posting pics and keeping us updated.
Thank you man, that means a lot that you said that!!! It's not perfect or the nicest build out there, but I am definitely putting my all into it and trying to make sure I atleast do stuff as good as possible and not shorting anything anywhere.
EDIT: BTW, that horrid looking valve cover will not be staying on there, I have a different version that will be getting powder coated and put in its place soon enough.
HAHA! I was just about to say u gotta paint that valve cover white. Cuz the rest of that engine bay lookin so pretty.
Finishing up my engine/engine bay/wiring. Almost done just need to attach a few more things and I'll be done with the front. Planning on putting the transmission in, then put the radiator and stuff back in and hopefully trying to start it this weekend. We shall see. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2...pss3pzhxfk.jpg
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Niceeeeee! I was wondering if you were still working on your truck. Looks like the valve covers need some TLC? Looking good lowered!
Gawd your garage looks like mine, Border line hoarder and border line...Save that I might need it, lol.
Thanks Brad, and yeah the valve cover will be getting replaced with another one once it gets some work done to it and I powdercoat it.
And yeah that's my dad's garage, it has tons of tools from when my GPA worked at the naval yard, and a bunch of other crap they like to hoard and not throw away. You should have seen it a year or two ago lol, before I cleaned it to be able to put my truck in there.
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Got it started after a stupid no spark issue because I blew my MPI relay fuse and didn't realize it. Beyond ecstatic, should have it driving by the end of the month.
Curse you Dropped! Now I wanna go twin cam :cussingblack:Quote:
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My rage post aside, nice work! :thumbup:
Thanks Geezer, the twin cam(+turbo) really make these motors much more fun.
More progress yesterday although no pics; got tranny all mounted 100% and fixed my speed sensor, fixed my leaking heater core and thermostat housing and got them all bolted up, and mounted my rear shocks and driveshaft too. More work to come today when I get off work!
When we finishing the truck up? Seems it's been in the garage more then you have driven it. Got it all bagged I imagine, so it should be soon to see you in the driver seat? :)
It is driveable, but still a few kinks to work out and few things to finish up. I got the bed cut out yesterday for the notches and set back on the truck. I need to cut it for the rear diff and the top of the tubs for the tires so it will lay frame. Still have to finish the rear section of exhaust after the muffler but had to wait until I got the bed back on to do that.
And I need to work on tuning the engine. I have DSMlink(tuning software) and I'm in the learning process of learning how to tune myself, plus fixing some boost links etc. I installed a bigger turbo, bigger injectors, fuel pump, etc so I need to get the tune down so it will run perfectly, although it runs decently right now.
After I get the tune, exhaust and an alignment done it will be pretty much 100% road worthy. Oh and registration.
I'll snap some pics in a little bit with the bed and everything else a little more tidy'ed up.
Cool, I like pics. Are you connected up to the computer and exhaust sensor while tuning. I am also doing some tweak tuning to the TBird, but with a carb I have to run an AEM mixture gauge with a wideband sensor. I have yet to connect a serial port cable to the gauge and bring a computer into garage, but that will be coming soon.
Sounds like your progressing, it just has been a long time since I seen the truck with a snap shot of it sitting on the street. Document your work, I am interested with your project. :)
Yes Brad I am datalogging with my laptop(hooked to my ecu which is running an ECMLink chip) and a wideband o2 sensor(also running through my ECU/ECMLink in place of narrowband sensor). I need to fix all my boost leaks first before I can actually get to tuning it.
Ok so some pics and updates. Got the bed cut out as much as it needs to be to lay frame, its just rough cut, I still need to finish grind everywhere I cut.
Here's the flange coming off my turbo to connect to my intercooler piping, it was a little warped so it was giving me a pretty big boost leak.So a lot of sanding later(stainless steel) on a flat surface and I got it flat. Here's a pic where you can see the low spots on the left and right(guess not the upload killed the quality).
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Full lift in back, front could go up another inch or so. Donk
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And laying frame
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awesome build im hoping to have one of these in my stable soon!! i had one of these as my 1st truck my mom won it for my dad when they 1st got married(1 was 1 when she won it) the truck was put to the pasture around 320k only thing other than maintenance ever done was a clutch. now i want another!!!
Thanks man and yeah these are awesome trucks, this is my second.
:)) coming together nicely sir
I am not that much into slamming trucks,but you sir have made me a believer. great job hour well spent going trough this thread. keep up the great work. :clap:
Feeler......... Anyone want it, 98% done
How much will you give me to take it off of your hands...LOL / JK
I'll give you $20. Lol. When are you going to focus on rwhp?
Are you serious about selling your MM? What's the spiel on this course of action?
lol........ If anybody offers me enough I'd sell it, otherwise I'll finish it someday. Not really needing to sell, just my focus/priorities in life are changing. I know most people won't give me anywhere near what it'd take for me to let it go, just put this out there. I still love my mini truck its just I have no time for it anymore(working 2nd shift now 10am-8/9/10pm) and really I'm a LOT more into Euro/Performance/exotic etc. vehicles now. My twin turbo E92 BMW is a lot more fun to upgrade and drive hard/canyon run than my MM is, although the turbo and bags combo is awesome and a lot of fun also. It also wouldn't hurt to have a few extra bucks to invest into some things I'm looking into that I'd rather not use my savings on.
It only needs the bed/gas tank stuff to be hooked up completely, little interior work, and get the tune figured out. I have driven it around the block and such.
Trust me. You lose interest when you stop working on it. Stopped working on the truck and focused on my eagle talon. When I lost the talon bought an evolution 8. Worked on that for a while and only recently started working on the truck again. Look on some dsm sites and you might find something good in the classifieds for cheap. Lol.
Wow, I never thought I see this, but I understand when priorities take you in a different direction. I use to be able to do so much stuff to a vehicle in a day, now it takes me 5 times as long and I just don't have the stick in me to go do it like I use to. I hope things work out for you. :)
So, the priority....what's her name? lol JK!
Haha no worries, truck isn't going anywhere unless someone offers me a decent chunk of change for it which most likely isn't going to happen. I won't just give it away after all the hard work I put into it(and $) and the MANY, MANY years I dreamt of having a bagged mini truck. As soon as it gets warmer and stops storming up here in Northern Cali I will start working on it again. It's damn near driveable/finished(for now), just need to finish a few things and fix the tune. The thing not wanting to run properly is what really has me unmotivated.
And no, no g/f yet and even if so, no way she would be able to make me get rid of my truck unless I wanted to. Like I said I have just been having fun throwing my money into my bmw and getting much more instant satisfaction/enjoyment from it. But I have definitely been thinking about my truck lately and have the itch to get it finished. Thanks for the motivation guys.
nothin like the freedom of taking a saw, drill, welder, and hacking away without hesitation, resulting in your own creation
Potential already there, as 4g63 goes from mild to wild pretty easily. Amazing build here
still have the truck...... hasn't really been worked on in years but that is changing. I have been working on it lately since I have a dirt bike again and need a truck to get to the track. I have been trying to get the motor running well with the ECM link and stuff, its idling and running like shit right now. Also still need to cut a crossmember and plate it so the exhaust fits over it better and then finish the exhaust. Then fix/find out why my brakes suck, and finish the fuel filler for my bed to tank. The truck looks pretty much exactly like the last photos posted in here.