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Gsprusty
03-27-2017, 05:38 AM
If finding an after market steering stablizer on line. Is this good for a 2wd truck. I have seen them on larger 4wd rigs. Is this recommended and / or what are the benefits ?

geezer101
03-27-2017, 02:28 PM
I think the general opinion is fitting a rear stabiliser to these trucks is the go. It will help control weight shift to the front end by preventing the rear from twisting around as much. A decent set of wider wheels, lower profile tires and new nylon bushes all round will be the icing on the cake. If you want anything better than that you'll need to buy adjustable shocks and uprated springs.

pennyman1
03-27-2017, 04:44 PM
A front steering stabilizer is the ticket if you are running larger/heavier than stock tires and wheels. It will work on a stock equipped truck as well, not really needed. It will reduce the beating the front end takes driving - I had one on my 85 Ram 50 Royal that was lifted 3" with lift coils - it made a world of difference.

geezer101
03-27-2017, 06:15 PM
^when you say 'steering stabiliser' is it the same as a 'steering dampener'? Like a horizontally mounted shock absorber?

Gsprusty
03-27-2017, 07:25 PM
yes it is

geezer101
03-27-2017, 10:42 PM
bingo :)

Lon Moer
05-25-2017, 08:29 PM
This is the part you seek, MOOG Steering Stabilizers (http://www.moogparts.com/parts/steering/steering-stabilizers.html)

Best price is; RockAuto (https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/moog,SSD45,steering+damper,7412)

http://fme-cat.com/liveimages/medium/MC/AMG_SSD45_P04_TOP.JPG

tortron
05-11-2018, 03:50 AM
Bump on this, I would like to know about how to fit the above kit? I saw one mentioned but with slightly different brackets in the old john baker catalogue but it said it required drilling

geezer101
05-11-2018, 04:53 AM
I was thinking I could use something similar to this part from a Toyota to eliminate some of the butchery and simplify the install - https://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Toyota-Landcruiser-HJ75-FJ75-Series-Steering-Tie-Rod-End-Left-/201299512672?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTa bs_0

I know this one will cause loss of full steering lock but there has to be something close in design that will do the job.

Or something that looks like this kit which appears to be better in quality - http://www.roughcountry.com/steering-stabilizer-87387.html

tortron
05-11-2018, 01:12 PM
I see that moog kit is also for old toyota hilux's so theres probably some half decent parts about (old man emu maybe?) my main question is where does the other bracket bolt to?
If i can use for example, the steering idler mointing bolts for a bracket i would be set

Drilling holes or welding chassis's is generally frowned upon here

geezer101
05-11-2018, 04:51 PM
The end bracket might line up with the idler arm mounting bolts (was my though but without measurements or actually seeing it, it's only a guess) - or make your own end bracket and set up all the alignments yourself. I looked at the rough country kit and it just looks like a better quality kit than the Moog (the price reflects it too but it's only like an extra $10 USD). Add a mud/dust boot to it to protect the shaft and it'll last for ages. I thought about this for a 2WD application as I am considering going up to 17x8" wheels and the damper will soak up bump steer and smooth out the steering feel in general (and it's a cool idea that I haven't seen applied to one of these trucks yet + relatively cheap and easy to install)

*click on the link and read the reviews. Seems like a great bit of kit for the intended applications but there's lowered and raised trucks in there and a review with one that was installed on a truck with 20" wheels.

pennyman1
05-12-2018, 05:13 PM
the L shaped bracket bolts to the crossmember - you have to drill 2 holes to mount it. It should not affect the turning radius of the truck if it is installed properly.

tortron
05-12-2018, 05:16 PM
Might have a word with my local certifier. Paying for another cert may be a bit extreme for 2 new holes, otherwise i might get away with some brackets

geezer101
05-12-2018, 08:32 PM
the L shaped bracket bolts to the crossmember - you have to drill 2 holes to mount it. It should not affect the turning radius of the truck if it is installed properly.

I was thinking with the rough country kit, all it might take is swapping the end where the shock bolts through the mounting bracket by flipping it 180 degrees and just drilling the holes through the mounting plate to match the idler arm bolt holes. 5 minute job :)

geezer101
05-12-2018, 08:46 PM
..and I am not a fan of the crummy looking shock end mounting clamp that goes on the centre drag link so I thought maybe -

https://www.ebay.com/itm/7-8-22mm-Motorcycle-HandleBar-Handle-Fat-Bar-Mount-Clamps-Riser-CNC-Aluminum-/381887861742?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTa bs_0

geezer101
05-12-2018, 10:28 PM
^nup, won't work. It needs to be able to pivot a few degrees at either end of travel. Would've been perfect for a parallel aligned set up. :(