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TPetersen92
12-19-2012, 02:30 AM
Hello, I'm 20 years old, live in Roseville, CA and I just bought my first car. Its a 1989 4x4 Power Ram 50. I'm getting it smogged tomorrow and then I'm gonna go have some fun testing out the four wheel drive :)

I've been looking everywhere and i cant find any Grille Guards/Bull Bars for these trucks. Does anyone know where you can find them?

camoit
12-19-2012, 06:47 AM
Welcome to the board.
Roseville hu. I'm in sac. SMOG sucks as they never pass the first time.

TPetersen92
12-19-2012, 08:25 AM
What are some things i can do to improve emissions if it doesn't pass?

pennyman1
12-19-2012, 05:45 PM
pep boys sell an additive to your gas that will clean the cats and o2 sensors - it comes with a guarentee to pass smog. Also clean the PCV and EGR valves - they are always cruddy and cause emission problems.

TPetersen92
12-19-2012, 09:48 PM
Thanks for tips :) I took it in this morning and it passed first try :D

camoit
12-19-2012, 10:18 PM
Well that was easy.. I was forced to give up trying to smog mine and go another direction.

TPetersen92
12-20-2012, 11:33 PM
4277

Here's a pic of my truck.

camoit
12-21-2012, 12:05 PM
I've seen that truck before. One thing you should do is change the timing belts. There probably old and have never been replaced. Do it now before it makes you do it when you you can least afford to be down. We have seen this happen many times. A new owner gets the truck then bam. Broken parts and big problems.. Another good thing to do is clean all the ground connections. The truck is 23 years old now, and this is when things really need to be looked at cleaned and protected. If there are things that are jerry rigged in the electrical then it is a problem just weighting to happen. Since you passed SMOG so easily then NOW is the time to take action. Preventive Maintenance is the key.

TPetersen92
12-21-2012, 02:21 PM
Doesn't the G54B engine have a timing chain instead of a belt... But that probably needs to be replaced anyway. I plan on giving a full tune up in the next couple months but money's tight right now with the holidays... I find that it is getting around 14 - 15 mpg is that bc its a 4x4 and it eats more gas or will a tune up improve that?

Thanks for the help, i look foward to driving this truck till it dies and then bringing it back to life :)

camoit
12-21-2012, 03:36 PM
At some point in time, the second gens went to belts. I'm not sure when. But if you look under the hood you will ether see a plastic cover on the front of the engine (belt) or not (Cain). Some of the guys on here know engine numbers to vehicle variants and options. Once you get into the later years like yours things can get confusing. I don't think Mitsubishi or Dodge kept track of the changes. If you check out the thread below you will see it's an 89 also, but it has a belt and a carb. We haven't nailed down when the change overs happened. But we are getting close. Is widely known that in 1990 they went to FI but we haven't figured out the month. We also know that in 89 you can have a 2.0L or a 2.6L engine. The heads of the two can be swapped back and forth. You can also swap heads over to a twin OHC along with some other internal parts. Project zero G has a large amount information on doing that kind of swap. Trust me, you will find these trucks can be quite a nightmare of different things. The engines were used from your truck, to Areas K cars, mini vans, forklifts, generators and farm water pumps. One thing to keep in mind is parts are getting harder to find. Trany, front end, rear end, interior, light covers, and some engine parts, the list goes on. So always keep an eye out for parts or complete trucks.


http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/showthread.php/1697-Vacuum-Diagram?p=14933#post14933

pennyman1
12-21-2012, 05:40 PM
In 1989 you could get the 2.6 in a MMM or dodge ram truck. It has a timing chain that won't need replaced under normal conditions. Make sure the oil stays clean and you won't have issues with the motor - I have run Rislone in my 1980 D-50 since new - it is a super detergent that will gently remove buildup from the motor. It can be found almost anywhere that sells oil. 1990 and up went to the 4g64 motor that has a timing belt. The 2.0 G63b and the 2.6 g54b motors cannot swap heads due to the motors being of 2 different engine families. Nice truck and welcome to the forum.

camoit
12-21-2012, 07:10 PM
Like I said I don't know the numbers.
But here is what they did.

Engines:
1979-1989 - Carbureted
1990-1996 - Fuel Injected

1979–1987 2.0 L (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liter) 4G52 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Astron_engine#4G52) I4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-4), SOHC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOHC), Carburetor, 90-93 hp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower) (67-69 kW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt#Kilowatt))
1987–1989 2.0 L (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liter) G63B (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Sirius_engine#4G63) I4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-4), SOHC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOHC), Carburetor, 90-93 hp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower) (67-69 kW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt#Kilowatt))
1979–1989 2.6 L 4G54 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Astron_engine#4G54) I4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-4), SOHC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOHC), Carburetor, 105 hp (78 kW)
1983–1985 2.3 L 4D55T turbo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo)diesel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine) I4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-4), 80-86 hp (61-64 kW)
1990–1996 2.4 L 4G64 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Sirius_engine#4G64) I4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-4), Fuel Injection, 116 hp (87 kW)
1990–1996 3.0 L 6G72 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_6G7x_engine#6G72) V6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V6), Fuel Injection, 142 hp (106 kW)



Heads G52 2.0L onto a G54B 2.6L

Pennyman. If you say they didn't have a belt in 89 then why does this one have it? It must be a G63B or a 4G54. Thats all it can be. Unless someone swapped it.
http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/showthread.php/1697-Vacuum-Diagram?p=14933#post14933

TPetersen92
12-21-2012, 07:23 PM
Thank you for all the info this has been a huge help

DroppedMitsu
12-22-2012, 07:03 AM
Camoit that motor is the 2.0 g63b which were always belt driven. All 2.6 g54b truck motors regardless of year had chains.

camoit
12-22-2012, 10:30 AM
Camoit that motor is the 2.0 g63b which were always belt driven. All 2.6 g54b truck motors regardless of year had chains.


I know the G52 2.0L was chain.
I love you guys, you keep the numbers straight for me. God knows I can't.
This is why dyslexic people like me hate Mitsubishi, all them crap ass numbers. Just bring me the dam truck. I'll fix it..,,

ikeepzitclean
12-23-2012, 02:54 AM
Hello, I'm 20 years old, live in Roseville, CA and I just bought my first car. Its a 1989 4x4 Power Ram 50. I'm getting it smogged tomorrow and then I'm gonna go have some fun testing out the four wheel drive :)

I've been looking everywhere and i cant find any Grille Guards/Bull Bars for these trucks. Does anyone know where you can find them?

welcome to the site Petersen. good to see another local here :thumbup:


4277

Here's a pic of my truck.

thats a good lookin truck man.. 5 spd?

92bluemax
12-23-2012, 08:54 AM
Welcome to the forum ... What color is your truck ??? If its blue look at my gallery because my truck appears to be just a shade lighter than yours ! nice truck !!http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=4220&thumb=1&d=1354738485:thumbup:

TPetersen92
12-23-2012, 06:43 PM
My truck is a 5 spd, though because its a 4x4 its geared low so it doesn't like going over 65mph.

92bluemax, your truck looks just like mine :thumbup: it looks like you even have the tool box :)

pennyman1
12-23-2012, 06:50 PM
the tires on your truck seem larger than stock - that could be why you are struggling to get to 65 and above. Have you had someone with a vehicle follow you and see if your speedo is accurate - larger tires will read lower speeds for the same rpms.

TPetersen92
12-25-2012, 12:34 PM
I did that today and my speedo is off by 5mph so when it says 60 i'm actually doing 65

TPetersen92
12-25-2012, 12:36 PM
Tommorow I'm going to replace the spark plugs, the distributor cap, air filter, and give it an oil change :)

camoit
12-25-2012, 01:08 PM
If you want to fix the speedo. Capitol Speedometer in west sac can re-gear it for you. Unless you are plaining to go back to the stock tire and rim. But it does look good the way it is sitting now.

ikeepzitclean
12-27-2012, 02:49 AM
Tommorow I'm going to replace the spark plugs, the distributor cap, air filter, and give it an oil change :)

once u get all that done get up 30 miles or so east of u on I-80 and enjoy that 4x4 in that fresh snow. :shock: lol

ikeepzitclean
12-27-2012, 02:51 AM
If you want to fix the speedo. Capitol Speedometer in west sac can re-gear it for you.

do they happen to carry odometer gears for diff. makes and models? cuz i need 2 or 3 gears for one of my cars.

92bluemax
12-30-2012, 10:53 AM
Mine is also a 5 speed 4x4 with stock tire size,and she moves along deascently on the interstate,but my driving is usually in the mountains of southwest Va,and offroad:thumbup:

xboxrox
09-08-2018, 05:30 PM
welcome TPeterson92
new plugs will help mpg use a dmm to check coil and secondary ignition wires, replace if needed (NAPA) sells a decent plug wire removal tool -- use correct engine oil 10W40 helps mpg in summer 20W50 works -- remove the spare tire replace with air spray tire repair can helps mpg -- make sure the dist vacuum advance line works helps mpg -- spray carb choke cleaner in the carb or TB starts smoother helps mpg -- maybe 2 or 3 gas fill ups add fuel system cleandr & water remover products -- check tires for age example(3611) = tire made in 36th week of 2011 -- stock eqyivalent tires will help mpg replace tires over ten years old -- out by Cirby Way there is a Spahn Ranch Road named after my dad's big hog farm there -- love your truck ENJOY

geezer101
09-08-2018, 11:49 PM
welcome TPeterson92
new plugs will help mpg use a dmm to check coil and secondary ignition wires, replace if needed (NAPA) sells a decent plug wire removal tool -- use correct engine oil 10W40 helps mpg in summer 20W50 works -- remove the spare tire replace with air spray tire repair can helps mpg -- make sure the dist vacuum advance line works helps mpg -- spray carb choke cleaner in the carb or TB starts smoother helps mpg -- maybe 2 or 3 gas fill ups add fuel system cleandr & water remover products -- check tires for age example(3611) = tire made in 36th week of 2011 -- stock eqyivalent tires will help mpg replace tires over ten years old -- out by Cirby Way there is a Spahn Ranch Road named after my dad's big hog farm there -- love your truck ENJOY

The man is a pro now! :thumbup:But check the post dates - this thread has been dead for 6 years... the nature of an online forum :(

xboxrox
09-09-2018, 08:54 PM
The man is a pro now! :thumbup:But check the post dates - this thread has been dead for 6 years... the nature of an online forum :(

oh my :)

Chargerx3
09-14-2018, 08:14 PM
Welcome to the club. I’ve got a blue 91 Ram 4x4 as well.